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duckiedi
10-17-2008, 09:29 PM
Evy or anyone have you ever come accross the following bacterial infections?
Klebsiella pneumoniae........Pseudomonas aeruginosa......Entercoccus
Can you help with the cure of any of these infections? Any help or knowledge would be appreciated.
thank you di

GooseGrl172
11-06-2008, 09:57 PM
Klebsiella pneumoniae........Pseudomonas aeruginosa......Entercoccus
Can you help with the cure of any of these infections?

Could you provide more information?

Jessica

duckiedi
11-07-2008, 07:39 AM
Thank you for the reply but I really did not have additional info I have no idea how my duck would have contracted such infections however I am unfortunate to say I did loose my duck during surgery on Monday. A mass was also found and I had a vet from Utah Dr. Echols perform the surgery but we lost my duck. It is has been a very difficult week with this.
the history- October 2 he was diagnosed with a respitory infection weight 7.5lbs then when I noticed he was not responding to the Cephelexin they prescribed I took him back to the vet on 10/13 weighed 8.5lbs we did blood work / throat culture and found the three bacteria infections. He was then put on Baytril and a Lasik pill for fluid retention in the abdomon area and took x-rays. 10/24 rushed him to another vet closer to me that evening he weighed 9.6lbs and the vet removed 3cc's of fluid from the abdomen and we went home. we did however increase to two lasik pills every 12hours. October 31 he had additional bloodwork and weighed 9.2lbs he was scheduled for surgery to possibly remove the mass or issue inside but Dr. Echols and my vet lost him shortly after the surgery began due to cardia arrest I am told.
But all of this is still a question as to how he of all ducks contracted such a mishap?
Thank you for the reply
di :(

goosedragon
11-07-2008, 08:31 AM
I'm sorry for your lose :( You spent all that money on vet bills and never thought to ask them how he contracted such a mishap? ~gd

duckiedi
11-07-2008, 09:06 AM
I have no idea what the cost is I was quoted $800 - $1,500 + the plane ticket. I was not in a good state on Monday and I am really having a difficult time with this. I know most do not believe in ducks as "house pets" he was he was out side when weather permited for short periods never left unattended never got into anything. I hope at some point to find out more details. The Mass/Tumor was spreading into the organs I understood Dr. Echols to say.

duckiedi
11-07-2008, 09:08 AM
Thank you Goosedragon I am not having a good time of it :(

GooseGrl172
12-20-2008, 11:31 PM
The Mass/Tumor was spreading into the organs I understood Dr. Echols to say.

Sorry it's taken me so long to respond (busy, totally forgot I even posted here). Sorry for your loss, but the above is a good hint towards an explanation as to why your duck would suffer an attack from these common, normally non-threatening bacteria. The duck's immune system was probably compromised in some way, allowing the bacteria to infect the duck.

duckiedi
12-21-2008, 05:06 PM
Thank you for replying, But I am very curious as to why and how the Mass/Tumor started in the first place? This particular lil guy was never injured etc. never needed medication for anything he was healthy at his last visit to the vet for his yearly exam which was in December 2007, and should be going to Florida with me this month he always gets his certificate of health before we leave for the holiday. There was NO SIGN of illness/sickness etc. What prompted me to think something was wrong was his increase in water intake that started all this the vet treated him for a respitory infection with Cephelxion when there was no change in a week we went back to the vet for the throat cultures etc. I would think something caused this.........I just hope it wasn't me. Yes he was hatched from my first three original ducks purchased at a local feed store and lived inside always. I know some don't agree about that type of care this was my choice to do but still want answers and YES when I am ready to discuss it with Dr. Echols I will be doing so He is a very nice Avian Vet............................

bbomber
12-21-2008, 09:57 PM
I am so sorry for what happened to your duck. I was curious what breed of duck he was? What was his name and can you post a picture of him. My pets have always been house pets.. My 2 Pekin ducks are in an outside pen where I can see them from my back door, and they see me when I look out. In the beginning it just killed me every night I laid in bed knowing they where out there. I wanted them with me. Safe and unlimited kisses and hugs. But I still don't quite accept the duck diaper concept. They are the best pets except for the random pooping.

duckiedi
12-22-2008, 08:19 AM
thank you for asking about "my love" His name was "Nosiey" (pronounced Nozee) he was my awesome lil buddy I am not sure if I can post a pic - not sure how? I never did the diaper thing either, was not aware of it when Nosiey was hatched. Nosiey was a pekin he was hatched 11/7/01 and I lost him 11/3/08 he was just shy of turning 7.
I agree they do make great pets and they are smarter than people actually give them credit for. I have 8 that live outside and it totally kills me I have a wireless thermometer in their duck palace now it was 12 degrees in there this morning I could have died but thankfully they were ok when I went out to change their water and feed them their snacks for the day .
I have discovered that yes they do make great pets but they are very difficult to keep healthy even when you try very hard to do so.

Evy
12-22-2008, 09:00 AM
I have discovered that yes they do make great pets but they are very difficult to keep healthy even when you try very hard to do so.[quote]

Waterfowl are probably the easiest type of poultry to keep healthy. With simple but proper conditions, ducks can live well into their teens, geese into their thirties. They don't get diseases that landfowl get & with some shelter, aren't bothered by cold. Clean water & a good commercial feed is all that's required. They are not house pets.

It's +4 at the moment here. My Calls are all out in the snow, my wild ducks are all in their pond & my 10 Bobwhites are all in a pile in the hay in the barn. :)

Rich
12-22-2008, 09:15 AM
I am sorry for your loss, however one has to wonder how you could even fathom spending that kind of money for veterinary bills for a pet duck. Sometimes things get sick with incurable conditions through no fault of the animal or the owner. I am sure you gave the duck great care. I would have thought that an xray or ultrasound would have shown the mass and the vet should have been able to tell you that the prognosis was not good. Some veterinarians prey on peoples emotions and when they encourage you to spend larege amounts of money for a procedure that will most likely not work. I hope you don't think I'm being insensitive as I've lost three people over the last three years to cancer and I had to watch them go downhill when you knew they weren't going to get better. With animals, we at least have the option of humanely euthanizing them and in many cases, that is the right thing to do. I am married to a large animal veterinarian and my wife could tell you that the hardest thing she has to deal with is people who won't make that decision when it is the right thing to do.

duckiedi
12-22-2008, 10:16 AM
Thanks Rich, an x-ray was done and most Avian people know the name of Dr. Echols & Dr. Speers I think ? the x-rays were shipped to Dr. Echols and he then consulted with Dr. Speers both suggesting a Testicular Tumor that is what they originally thought from what I was told - I understand what you are saying and yes unfortunately I am one of those people that have a difficult time with even considering putting a pet down, but I was really lead to believe Nosiey had a chance and would hope that the vets involved even my regular local ine would not put me or Nosiey through such if there was no hope. I was told they tried bringing him back from the cardiac arrest but was unsuccessful - to be honest with everyone I still would like to know if this is the truth or if Nosiey was humanly put down with out me knowing it I guess I will never know. I just know I do have a lot of heartache over this. :(

Rich
12-22-2008, 02:24 PM
I seriously doubt that your duck was put down without your permission and I'm sure you were told what really happened. Again, I'm sorry for your loss.