APA National at Illini

[MattL]

Just got a report over 3500 birds next weekend at Illini, judging will start at 8:00am!
Sounds like a super turnout at a great facility!

[7961]

Has anyone heard of any results yet?

[Leisha]

Yes, would love to hear of any results.

[7961]

Someone posted some results Saturday and now when I checked back it is deleted.

[Hummer]

Hang on and someone who was at the show will probably report in....after the jet lag wears off!!!! LOL. I got lots of long rambling reports from the show but not many results :wink:. I do know that Show Champion was a White Rock pullet (largefowl) by Bud Hudson who was an APA honoree at the banquet.

Hummer

[Hummer]

Ok, since nobody else is going to step up and attempt a show report I guess I will. Keep in mind that I was not at the show and am piecing it all together from several different sources. I'll just limit it to the class champions and leave out all the additional commentary I got with it all :twisted:. Sorry, I don't have names to go with the birds.

Champion Bantam and Champion Featherleg- Black Cochin (k)
Reserve Bantam and Champion RCCL- Black Rosecomb (p)
Champion Modern- Birchen (p)
Champion Game- Black (k)
Champion SCCL- White Japanese
Champion AOCCL-. W.C Black Polish (p)

Champion Largefowl and Champion American- White Plymouth Rock (p)
Reserve Largefowl and Champion Asiatic- Black Cochin (h)
Champion English- Australorp (k)
Champion Mediterranean- White Leghorn (h)
Champion Continental- Silver Spangled Hamburg (k)
Champion AOSB- Black Sumatra (h)

Champion Waterfowl- Embden (h)
Reserve Waterfowl- White Call (c)

Champion Light Duck- White Runner (k)
Champion Medium Duck- White Crested (c)
Champion Heavy Duck- Pekin (c)

Champion Turkey- Narragansett (c)

Sorry, that's all I can remember from the various conversations :).

Hummer

[Bluze]

I have a question for you judges out there. I did attend the Nationals show and had birds there. My question is about something odd that I and a few others noticed on the Silver Spangled Hamburgs coop card. He was on Champion Row but the judge marked him RV and BB, not BV. How could he be Best of Breed, but Reserve of Variety, and still end up as Champion Continental?

[Hummer]

I have a question for you judges out there. I did attend the Nationals show and had birds there. My question is about something odd that I and a few others noticed on the Silver Spangled Hamburgs coop card. He was on Champion Row but the judge marked him RV and BB, not BV. How could he be Best of Breed, but Reserve of Variety, and still end up as Champion Continental?

That would be a very good question to ask!!!! LOL. You are correct that first a bird needs to be Best of Variety to go on the Best of Breed and then on up. I think the exhibitor with the S. S. Hamburg that had the BV on the coop tag might have a few questions to ask as well :-o

Hummer

[MattL]

Did not judge the Continental Class but my guess was the tag was misread. I have a bad habit of making my BV and RV the same and have to go back and rewrite them sometimes. Downfalls of poor handwriting in an electronic age!

[MattL]

Here are a couple pics from the show

Res. RCCL- Partridge Wyandotte pullet by Ken and Mary Aho in a class of 96 Partridge Wyandottes
http://www.bantamclub.com/photos/albums/userpics/10001/pwka.jpg

Champion RCCL and Res. Champion Bantam-Black Rosecomb female by Dr. Bill Patterson

http://www.bantamclub.com/photos/albums/userpics/10001/normal_brbp.jpg

[Patrick]

Did not judge the Continental Class but my guess was the tag was misread. I have a bad habit of making my BV and RV the same and have to go back and rewrite them sometimes. Downfalls of poor handwriting in an electronic age!

I agree that it's a good possibility that this was the case. I've seen that happen a lot. Sometimes a judge will make a mistake, and actually enter RV when he means BB, or the opposite. Sometimes if the classes are not grouped properly by whomever set up the show, a judge will think that he has judged every variety, choose a BB and mark it on the tag, only to later find other varieties that he had not judged yet. After judging them, if the BB becomes a different bird, sometimes the original tag does not get changed. A good clerk will catch all of these mistakes, and call it to the judge's attention for correction. They're easy errors to make, and I sometimes cringe when I see some of these kids who they get to clerk, who obviously have no interest in being there, looking up at the ceiling, around for their friends, etc. I always wonder what they may be missing.

[Oggie]

Another possibility is that the courier that put the bird on Champion row got the wrong bird and tag. With as many birds as were in each class, this could have been a very excuseable mistake. The Judge probably had no idea that the "wrong" tag was put on Champion row by a helper. Just an error that could have been made by anyone! The record will show whom was the rightful winner, whether the right bird / wrong bird was put on Champion row. I'm sure the winning exhibitor made sure of that!

[TomNY]

Sometimes things fall through the cracks and get lost forever. I hope things get worked out correctly. Tom