problem with Eggbid user Please help

[jeamar]

I have had nothing but problems wirh eggbid used clynn.. He has bid on items high just to play games and never pays..It has got to the point that I cannot use it anymore..I am only one of many that are tired of his childish prants..Any ideas..??

[Evy]

Contact Eggbid administrator. Scott
E-mail Address(es):
customer-service@eggbid.com

[Ok Peafowl]

That would be great to email them but after 4 months or more of emails and no response what do you do????????? The bad thing is they just seem not to care,to bad it was a good place to sale and buy birds and now there are alot of FIRST GRADERS on it.

[gregrag]

Spread the word around on all the poultry sites--maybe someone will be able to give him a dose of his own medicine!!!!!:o greg

[jeamar]

As others have stated, I have tried a number of times and nothing happens..It is a great site, but as times goes on, more and more people are leaving it.. Too many problems and no responses..They should never let someone leave feedback that has not purchased the item from the seller..I am at a loss for words..its a joke..:x:-x:!:

[MattL]

If you do not like the service, don't use the site. It has ran unmonitored for quite a few years now and you pretty much are on your own, so buyer beware. I have gotten some nice birds from Eggbid and alot of crap too! You need to know who you are dealing with if you are buying and if you are selling, don't get your hopes up as I would say most sales never get completed because of the deadbeats who bid with no intention of buying.

[robin416]

I was going to leave this alone but I have to agree, the site has had issues with trolls. Being unmoderated is part of the problem, you have jerks who think its funny to run bids up or list things that don't exist. Which translates to no sale and any attempt to relist has the same problem reoccuring. Its more of a problem for the listers than those bidding.

I hate moderation but it might be time to think about it because when there is a problem there doesn't seem to be any help for it. There has been quite a bit of discussion about the problem getting worse in recent months.

[jeamar]

I only mention it here because I was told the person in charge of Eggbid also runs this site..(Tim Jones) And maybe if I listed something here, he would do something about the problem..I am at the end of my rope and am grabbing at anything that might help..:confused:

[ronnie413]

I heard that the same company that owns the poultry connection also owns eggbid When did you write to them for help?

[breeder]

Tim's been notified. Which catagory is the problem on ?

[jeamar]

I have had posts in Peafowl chickens(chicks) and pheasants..he goes after them all..

[Ok Peafowl]

You know I have also seen where people had bid on birds then the seller says sold do not bid, I guess the seller couldn't read when they registered that you can't do that.

[MattL]

Tim Jones was one of the founders of Eggbid along with starting The Poultry Connection back in the mid 1990's. Tim does not actively manage the Eggbid site, I believe Scott for the Easy Chicken is in charge of that. Neither have the time to oversee the site and things tend ot get out of hand. As longs as you know that going in, like I said before, buyer beware and sellers be careful. I hope that Tim can intervene in your problem but he will need to all the specifics.
MattL

[jeamar]

Tim Jones was one of the founders of Eggbid along with starting The Poultry Connection back in the mid 1990's. Tim does not actively manage the Eggbid site, I believe Scott for the Easy Chicken is in charge of that. Neither have the time to oversee the site and things tend ot get out of hand. As longs as you know that going in, like I said before, buyer beware and sellers be careful. I hope that Tim can intervene in your problem but he will need to all the specifics.
MattL

I have tried to explain it to Tim and it never goes anywhere..He knows what is happening, he just does not seem to care..The site is a joke...Untill someone shows some concerns, it will continue to crumble..

[robin416]

I have tried to explain it to Tim and it never goes anywhere..He knows what is happening, he just does not seem to care..The site is a joke...Untill someone shows some concerns, it will continue to crumble..

We can understand your frustration about the situation, its happened a time or two to friends of mine. But its time for you to back down. You got the attention of those that have any chance of dealing with the problem. Don't shoot yourself in the foot now.

[jeamar]

We can understand your frustration about the situation, its happened a time or two to friends of mine. But its time for you to back down. You got the attention of those that have any chance of dealing with the problem. Don't shoot yourself in the foot now.

So what you are telling me is to live with it and let these people do what they want to mess up the site?? I am 65 years old and try to run a small business buying, raising and selling birds..And you want me to "back down"?? Come on...Punks like him need to be stopped..

[ronnie413]

I have tried to explain it to Tim and it never goes anywhere..He knows what is happening, he just does not seem to care..The site is a joke...Untill someone shows some concerns, it will continue to crumble..

All I know is what I heard about this company. Seems like a business like this one cant just run out of conrol? Dont give up,maybe they havent got your message yet. Maybe they list a phone number, havent looked...

[ges]

So what you are telling me is to live with it and let these people do what they want to mess up the site?? I am 65 years old and try to run a small business buying, raising and selling birds..And you want me to "back down"?? Come on...Punks like him need to be stopped..

At least two other options come readily to mind: 1) stop using the site and find alternative marketing methods; 2) start your similar site...and moderate it to your liking.

gerry

[tojones]

At least two other options come readily to mind: 1) stop using the site and find alternative marketing methods; 2) start your similar site...and moderate it to your liking.

gerry


Ok folks, feel free to email me here. A lot of the problems that you see on eggbid are because there are 35000 users and only about 5 people have bothered to read the user agreement and abide by it. I can't hold each person's hand and check each individual feedback post or listing. There's not enough time in the day. There's also not enough money in it to pay someone else to do it. I do what I can but at some point the user has to take some responsibility for their actions on the site. A little basic common sense and common curtousy would go a long way.

When emailing me, I need your correct user id and nickname, the item id that it is related to, the correct user nickname of the person you may be concerned about, and as much pertinent information to explain what it is that is the problem and what has done about it. If I have to email someone 6 times to figure out what the issue is, then I've spent a lot of time going no where when there are other users that are not being helped.

Work with me and I can do a better job with the site. I'm a regular working guy with a family that deserves my attention. My family will always come first.

[Patrick]

There is a fable. You'll have to excuse me, because I'm citing it from memory. I don't even know where it originated, but it goes something like this:

A man was walking along and he sees a snake. The snake says to him, "Pick me up". Yes, the snake speaks. In our fable, like on BYC, animals talk. The mans says, "No, you're a venomous snake, and if I pick you up, you will bite me." "No" says the snake, "I promise, if you pick me up, I will not bite you." The man still balks, but the snake is convincing. Finally the man agrees to pick up the snake if he promises that the snake will not bite. The man reaches down and promptly gets bit by the snake. He cries out, "But you promised that you would not bite me." "Yes", says the snake, "but I am a snake. You knew that it was my nature to lie. You should have known better that I would only do what comes naturally to me. You have learned a valuable lesson."

The internet is full of snakes. Some harmless, some venomous, and you can't even see them to tell the difference. Buyer beware.

[Evy]

Sometimes just an inquiry here may help. Quite a few of us know the people selling birds & quite a few of us can give a prospective buyer an evaluation of pictured birds, especially if it's being touted as ''show quality''.

One thing that really bothers me about the internet, blogs, forums, etc. is ''usernames''. What do these people have to hide?

[Pathfinders]

My username is our farm name, fwiw.

[goosedragon]

Sometimes just an inquiry here may help. Quite a few of us know the people selling birds & quite a few of us can give a prospective buyer an evaluation of pictured birds, especially if it's being touted as ''show quality''.

One thing that really bothers me about the internet, blogs, forums, etc. is ''usernames''. What do these people have to hide?I can't speak for anyone else but I picked my username while I was using my employer's computer and conection to work the Internet. There weren't any formal rules against it and It would have been easy to track back and bust me if they wanted to. I just thought it it was wise not to use my real name because there were other users from my company visiting the site at that time. Now goosedragon seems to be a unique ID while my real name is rather common.

[chukarman]

I think everyone is haveing problems with them. He does not seem to care and when you call or e-mail Tim no response. The only time I get a rersponse is when you stir something up. I raise birds but will NOT sell on there because of all the young punks that they allow on there.

[Neil E. Grassbaugh]

One thing that really bothers me about the internet, blogs, forums, etc. is ''usernames''. What do these people have to hide?

You find it a bother, I consider it the major problem with the misinformation highway.
I guess I better come clean on this. I have been hiding behind my screen name for to long now. My name is really John Smith.
I'm really relieves to be out from behind this fake front I have been living on the internet. Now that I have unburdended myself I will be free to tell you what I really think.




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[Patrick]

You find it a bother, I consider it the major problem with the misinformation highway.





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that, an da weigh peeple r illowd too spell (BYC all the way!)

You wouldn't believe, yes YOU would, but figuratively speaking, you wouldn't believe some of the resumes I receive at work, from so-called educated people.

[MKG]

One thing that really bothers me about the internet, blogs, forums, etc. is ''usernames''. What do these people have to hide?

Okay, Okay. Thanks for the guilt trip. I couldn't figure out how to change my display name, so added an avitar to display my ugly mug to the rest of the world. Is that close enough??? I do have one concern. Will the BYC folks be able to figure out which one is me?

[Evy]

Okay, Okay. Thanks for the guilt trip. I couldn't figure out how to change my display name, so added an avitar to display my ugly mug to the rest of the world. Is that close enough??? I do have one concern. Will the BYC folks be able to figure out which one is me?

We figured out who you were anyway , Mike, deer-er-dear. Nice of ''John Smith'' to 'fess up, though. The ''handles'' on here don't bother me as much as the ones on the auctions. It seems you should have the right to know who you're dealing with. Even a farm name is better than nothing.

[Patrick]

[QUOTE=Evy;3987 The ''handles'' on here don't bother me as much as the ones on the auctions. It seems you should have the right to know who you're dealing with. Even a farm name is better than nothing.[/QUOTE]

I agree, but then I also wonder about these idiots who still go ahead and buy online, sight unseen, from someone with no name, and then have the nerve to blame the website owner when things go bad. Just like those who buy eggs through the mail, and then cry when they arrive broken, or don't hatch at all. There is not nearly enough money in poultry, even show quality birds, given all that goes into them, for me to bother with this chicken swap mentality. That attitude really goes against all that true exhibition breeders stand for. Rather than encouraging it by offering sale areas at our shows, we should be prohibiting it. At most shows, how many people are there selling true exhibition type stock or even quality nonexhibiton birds such as good layers, pure pheasants, etc? I guess less than 10 percent. At some shows it's even much less than that. All the rest are backyard or hatchery birds. Let them deal in that crap at their chickenstocks. Most of the serious breeders, exhibition or not, have the sense to seek out the birds they want and buy them directly from the breeder. Even through the mail, they at least establish some type of relationship and have a much better idea of what they are getting. A lot of people get all bent out of shape when they hear about breeders who destroy their culls, but dealing in live animals, on or off the farm, online or off, brings an additional set of problems if there's ignorance on either side, which many other business transactions do not have.

This rash of new backyard chicken folks who really have no idea about anything, chicken or otherwise, I think are hurting us more than helping us. We should be distancing ourselves from them, not collaborating with them. They're bringing an entirely new level of profound ignorance to the fancy and to issues surrounding it, that we've never seen before.

A once prestigious northeastern avicultural society which was originally made up of serious pheasant and waterfowl aviculturists, has slowly over the years been infiltrated by these Fred Sanfords of poultry, and now many people who attend their meetings don't even know the name of the organization. It's simply known as the monthly chicken swap, and that is all it has become.

If you buy or sell online, using a venue which allows for all this secrecy and obvious associated abuse, you get exactly what you deserve if things go wrong, and you have no one to blame except yourself.

[Pathfinders]

FWIW, part of the reason I prefer to remain (at least somewhat) anonymous on various internet sites is that I do not wish to have "drop ins" or visitors who come when I am not around and mooch around my farm, blowing my biosecurity, or worse, stealing birds. I've had both things happen, and I don't like it very much.

Even if you do know my street address, most GPS systems still can't find us very well (which I like a LOT), and I have worked hard to remove all traces of our street address and land line from the Internet. I now use my PO box (which is in a different town from which I live) and my cell phone for all contact info that is posted.

That's my reasoning, anyway.

[Evy]

FWIW, part of the reason I prefer to remain (at least somewhat) anonymous on various internet sites is that I do not wish to have "drop ins" or visitors who come when I am not around and mooch around my farm, blowing my biosecurity, or worse, stealing birds. I've had both things happen, and I don't like it very much.

Even if you do know my street address, most GPS systems still can't find us very well (which I like a LOT), and I have worked hard to remove all traces of our street address and land line from the Internet. I now use my PO box (which is in a different town from which I live) and my cell phone for all contact info that is posted.

That's my reasoning, anyway.

I can't argue with that. I agree that the fewer people that know where I live, the better I like it. I had to discourage the owners of a very busy farm/produce business in the area from giving people directions to my house to anyone looking for breeds they didn't sell.

[Patrick]

I can't argue with that. I agree that the fewer people that know where I live, the better I like it. I had to discourage the owners of a very busy farm/produce business in the area from giving people directions to my house to anyone looking for breeds they didn't sell.

I agree too. I wish that I had the schedule, the type of farmstead, the lifestyle, and lived in a time and place where strangers with good intentions could be welcome to drop in at any time, and those without were easily spotted, however I think that, by and large, those days are gone, no matter what my particular situation. If you join an organization, place a classified ad, or even post online, those who really want to find you, will. Sure, it pays to be cautious, but I still don't like it when people hide behind a screen name, especially when trying to sell something. Isn't it odd that, here anyway, sometimes those who use their real name, or at least make it not too difficult to find out who they are, are often more willing to post what's on their mind than a lot of people who just lurk, or who hide behind a screen name?

[robin416]

At one time when I was a newbie at using forums someone mentioned that its best to have different ID's for different forums for security reasons. At the time it made perfect sense to me so that's what I did. Problem is, it didn't take long for me to forget who I was on which forum or what the password was. I rarely do anything on Eggbid so I've never gotten around to changing it. As a matter of fact I find it necessary to hunt down that Eggbid ID if I do want to use it.

After reading this and experiencing first hand the frustration of not knowing who I'm dealing with I will change my ID to my farm name. Fingers crossed no one figures out where it is but then the three large dogs and the closed gate generally keeps people at bay.

[Pathfinders]

After reading this and experiencing first hand the frustration of not knowing who I'm dealing with I will change my ID to my farm name. Fingers crossed no one figures out where it is but then the three large dogs and the closed gate generally keeps people at bay.

The first thing I would do were I to hit the lottery or somehow come into a huge sum of money is to perimeter fence our farm. I'd love to have the ability to let the Anatolian run free (rather than just have him in the goat pasture), but with 45 acres, don't see me fencing the whole thing right now.

Earlier this fall had a weird experience with a psycho family member who thought she was entitled to items I had inherited at my mother's death. She called me up to say she was coming to visit (from CT) and wanted to "see" the items in question (my brothers and husband were convinced she was going to do a snatch and run.) I politely told her no, and then was very glad of Mapquest and Google Maps not being able to find us properly...

[robin416]

Laura that little incident rings a bell way back in the back of my brain.

I can tell you its expensive to do the fencing. Ours already existed but needed fine tuning and complete replacement in some areas. We've got about 5000 tied up in just materials. We won't talk about the manual labor, I'm just glad its done.

[Pathfinders]

Oh, well I know the fencing would be expensive. I figure at least 20k to do the whole perimeter, and while I'm at it I'd like a series of horse pastures carved out please so I can do more rotational than we do now.

I can dream...

;)