Chicken Magazine

[JonAld]

I was at Farm and Fleet and saw that they had a magazine on breeds, I looked through it and it was incredibly inaccurate. First it listed a bunch of breeds that we don't even have in the US, then it listed Plymouth Rocks as an English breed.... and it also listed Freedom Rangers as a proper breed (not the hybrid it is) it just doesnt make sense to me that they can be seen as a reliable source for anything now.

[Oregon Swedes]

In the feed store, the little color magazine format books on dogs, reptiles, and horses aren't accurate, either. I suspect that they hire commercial writers, not experts, to write them. Buy at your own risk.

The world is full of people who want cheap information at absolutely no effort to themselves, so there is a nice big audience for that sort of thing. I can't really fault the concept of making money by selling the people what they (legally) want.

I'm about half surprised they aren't doing it in comic book format, yet.

[Patrick]

I agree. It doesn't cost any more to get the correct information, but it doesn't sell if it doesn't elicit giggles, among most of the ignorant masses. The leading pet magazine publisher today doesn't run an issue without a full page of photos of their target species dressed up in silly costumes. They have unfortunately branched out to include small farming as well. One of their leading columnists is a big proponent of dressing up chickens, keeping them in the house with diapers and trying to housetrain goats.

[katschicks]

Would love to see them house train a billy goat. Wonder how they would get him to stop peeing on his beard ? Boy can they stink after they get a year or so old.

[Patrick]

Logic is not these people's strong suit.

[JonAld]

Well what blows me away is that Diane Jacky (one of the artists for the standard) does the illustrating, which shows that shes just doing it for the money and not in support of purebred poultry.

[Patrick]

As far as I know, she's never made it a secret that she wants to get paid for her work. I don't blame her for that, more power to her. Some of her stuff is not bad. Some, I wonder what the heck she was drinking, or not, that day.

BTW, what was the name of the magazine?

[JonAld]

It was just called Chicken Breeds, part of the Popular Farming Series it says. Same company that makes the Chicken Magazine

[Mary]

Sounds dreadful. Glad I found good books with real info. Of course, I had enough real world experience I would not have fallen for the silly stuff you are describing.

[goosedragon]

I was at Farm and Fleet and saw that they had a magazine on breeds, I looked through it and it was incredibly inaccurate. First it listed a bunch of breeds that we don't even have in the US, then it listed Plymouth Rocks as an English breed.... and it also listed Freedom Rangers as a proper breed (not the hybrid it is)Really? and exactly which homozygous individuals went into the mix? One should avoid technical terms if you don't understand what they mean it just doesnt make sense to me that they can be seen as a reliable source for anything now.

~gd

[JonAld]

Ok, then explain to me why they're not a hybrid?

[Evy]

Ok, then explain to me why they're not a hybrid?

I'm with you! They are a hybrid, just like ''comets'' & all the other names on commercial type production layers. Of course everything was once a ''hybrid'' until it was recognized by some organization. (I agree about Jackey's ''illustrations'', too ). I won't buy another standard until they get one printed with photos.

[Patrick]

I'm guessing that he's splitting hairs, for no reason other than to be contrary again. In the broad sense a hybrid is a cross between two species, while a crossbreed is the product of two breeds of the same species. What he's not taking into account is that hybrid can also be used correctly in describing a crossbreed, especially when used in context, as in this case.

[katschicks]

For GD Homozygous refers to having
identical alleles for a single trait. That simply means a bird can be a hybred but still be homozygous for single comb. Or white lobes. Or 5 toes. Or dark skin. And it can still be a hybred. Get the drift?

[Oregon Swedes]

It's common usage in plant breeding to use "hybrid" to describe a cross of two deliberately bred strains. Check the seed racks for hybrid tomatoes. Those aren't any cross between two species; they are a cross of two purpose bred strains of tomato.

Hybrid is used that way in chickens, too. To describe the first generation crossing of two purpose bred strains. Just off the top of my head, I can't think of any other livestock where hybrid is used that way., Deliberate crosses of breeds are crossbreds in cattle and horses. If you are talking of hybrids, you would be talking about mules or beefalo, not Black White Face or Morabs.

If they aren't deliberate crosses of separately maintained strains, then they are mutts. Oops, or "project birds".

I know that strictly speaking "hybrid" isn't being used correctly, but it is common usage and it does communicate, so meets the purpose of language. I'm not going to argue with the people who use it that way.

Nor, come to think of it, am I going to worry about whether or not a car can really be a hybrid.

[goosedragon]

You all are right, especially Patrick, that morning post was after a night that the power failed leaving my brain starved for oxygen for most of the night, I should have 86ed the post when I noticed the spelling error. I am sorry JonAid. Your rant about breeds that ‘we don’t even have in the US’ got me rolling and I didn’t stop to consider that hybrid has tons of different meanings and you usage could be perfectly acceptable.
Evy, difference between a hybrid and a standard breed is acceptance into the SOP? Interesting. How do you take a photo of the perfect chicken since they don’t exist? Photos and Photoshop [to add what is missing from the not quite perfect bird] have been around for a few years but not used in the SOP. I expect a long wait.
Patrick, didn’t you used to be the resident hairsplitter? Katschicks and Oregon, Right on!

[Patrick]

Schilling was the original Photoshop. The idea is not new. The ABA is actually taking the lead, and is working on that project. What's old is new again, and our modern day Schilling is doing things that he couldn't dream of.

[JonAld]

Thanks

[Bronislaw]

I just love the chicken, this is my Favorite meal ...
specially chicken pilao is my Favorite dish for all the time ...
I eat mostly this dish when i am very hungry ...

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