Crossroads of America Show - 2011

[wyldehorses]

Is it ever too early to start planning for something this big?


http://web.mac.com/rbennett57/Crossr...f_America.html

[CubanLongtails]

Never too early!

[Patrick]

I'm planning my breedings, the results of which will be used to plan my breedings for the birds I'll be taking to this show. If that sounds like a lot of work, imagine that which goes into putting it on. Should be another unforgettable event, with the ARBA rabbit national the same weekend. I'd love to see the APA and ABA get toether with the ARBA and at least have a dialog about how we can help each other.

[Bob308]

I know that I am cranking up the Lemon Blue and Silver Blue pens (Moderns) this year to hopefully clear up some problems I caused by injecting Birchen and Brown Red into them 2 years ago. It improved type but it screwed up the evenness of the blue, that is just now starting to straighten up.

I thought it would be a great time to get a variety ( in this case Splash Moderns) accepted into both the APA and ABA in one fell swoop.

Bob

[Evy]

Originally Posted by Bob308

I know that I am cranking up the Lemon Blue and Silver Blue pens (Moderns) this year to hopefully clear up some problems I caused by injecting Birchen and Brown Red into them 2 years ago. It improved type but it screwed up the evenness of the blue, that is just now starting to straighten up.

I thought it would be a great time to get a variety ( in this case Splash Moderns) accepted into both the APA and ABA in one fell swoop.

Bob

Don't you have to have 5 breeders ''proving'' they've bred them true for 5 years PLUS a minimum number (25?) to get them accepted ? I know a lot of it is politics. Of the 100 +/- Choc. Calls at that qualifying meet, only about 3 were even close to the ''standard''!

[katschicks]

Originally Posted by Bob308

I know that I am cranking up the Lemon Blue and Silver Blue pens (Moderns) this year to hopefully clear up some problems I caused by injecting Birchen and Brown Red into them 2 years ago. It improved type but it screwed up the evenness of the blue, that is just now starting to straighten up.

I thought it would be a great time to get a variety ( in this case Splash Moderns) accepted into both the APA and ABA in one fell swoop.

Bob

I have a question for the more informed. How can splash become an approved variety ? I thought that to become an approved variety the birds had to breed true to color for that variety. From what I have bred that are splash , no 2 birds are the same color. Thanks. Rog

[byhookorchook]

Neither are two Zebras the same colour. But everyone knows what we mean in colour when we talk Zebra. That is what Splash is. A random pattern of washed out blue. As far as breeding true, you may have a point. In Oz we have similar paradox.

[wyldehorses]

And isn't mottled different and random on each bird. But I did read in the standard about the approval process and the above is how it reads. That being said, there are some breeds with splash varieties approved.

Yolonda

[Bob308]

Originally Posted by Evy

Don't you have to have 5 breeders ''proving'' they've bred them true for 5 years PLUS a minimum number (25?) to get them accepted ? I know a lot of it is politics. Of the 100 +/- Choc. Calls at that qualifying meet, only about 3 were even close to the ''standard''!

Evy I am sorry to hear about your Chocolate Calls, but there are a lot of excellent Splash Moderns out there and they have been shown at every MGBCA National that I can remember for the last 5 years. Whether or not they meet all the criteria, I am not sure. I was just wishing out loud.
I do know this, they breed true, have excellent type (or can) and are in the hands of at least 3 maybe 4 good breeders that I know of, there maybe more. I have shown some myself at times.

Splash are a recognized variety in Old English, Rosecombs and Wyandottes, at least by the ABA.
Bob

[Evy]

Originally Posted by Bob308

Evy I am sorry to hear about your Chocolate Calls, but there are a lot of excellent Splash Moderns out there and they have been shown at every MGBCA National that I can remember for the last 5 years. Whether or not they meet all the criteria, I am not sure. I was just wishing out loud.
I do know this, they breed true, have excellent type (or can) and are in the hands of at least 3 maybe 4 good breeders that I know of, there maybe more. I have shown some myself at times.

Splash are a recognized variety in Old English, Rosecombs and Wyandottes, at least by the ABA.
Bob

NOT MY Calls, Bob. I was just mentioning the politics behind acceptance. I don't recall ever seeing a splash Modern either. Guess I'm in the wrong end of the country.

[katschicks]

(Quote) Splash are a recognized variety in Old English, Rosecombs and Wyandottes, at least by the ABA.
Bob (Quote)
So what does the standard call for that the splash color should be ? Rog

[Bob308]

Originally Posted by Evy

NOT MY Calls, Bob. I was just mentioning the politics behind acceptance. I don't recall ever seeing a splash Modern either. Guess I'm in the wrong end of the country.

No Evy, probably just the wrong end of the showroom. There were quite a few at the NEPC and the BV was from Lee Bowhall from NY. But then I didn't notice any call ducks there either..............

Bob

[Bob308]

Originally Posted by katschicks

(Quote) Splash are a recognized variety in Old English, Rosecombs and Wyandottes, at least by the ABA.
Bob (Quote)
So what does the standard call for that the splash color should be ? Rog

You can look it up on page 249 of the ABA Standard.

Bob

[MattL]

And we sell those at http://www.bantamclub.com.
Matt L

PS-Seen several nice splashed birds at the ABA National and Semi in Cochin, Silkie, Modern, and OE. Even seen some Splash Dutch last year at the Fall Lucasville show!

[wyldehorses]

Just out of curiosity, why isn't there a bigger push to have splash recognized in breeds that have blue varieties approved?

Yolonda

[Patrick]

Probably because it's so difficult to work with. Then also, there may be others like me who find it rather ugly, in chickens. Why they ever recognized it in silkies of all things is beyond me.

[wyldehorses]

Splash is not the prettiest color/pattern and the pigmentation around the eyes is unattractive.

Yolonda

[CubanLongtails]

Splash on big heavy chickens, like orpingtons or plymouth rocks, isn't a bad look - maybe it's all the fluff. On gamefowl (modern, oriental, american, etc...), I'm not a big fan. The same goes for my opinion of Self-Blue (lavender).